Another one - where the trailer just came out.
I did a write up with my speculation(s) based on the trailer - and the trailer is posted in the thread found here:
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/archives/1167
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Another one - where the trailer just came out.
I did a write up with my speculation(s) based on the trailer - and the trailer is posted in the thread found here:
http://comicreliefpodcast.com/archives/1167
I'm excited about this movie. I think it's going to be a nice send off for jackman
Great trailer. The Johnny Cash cover of Hurt set the tone perfectly.
I just hope the movie is as good as the trailer. :)
Could be good, hard to say from one thing. Maybe it's from the storyline of Wolverine killing everyone after Mastermind controlled him. If we're lucky, Puck.
My speculation is, that something's happened, and mutants have lost their powers.
It'd explain why Logan is suddenly aging (and Professor X is still alive; so basically it's not 100 years later, and Wolverine's older, and Professor X dead by this time).
I think his bloody hands were another hint, that his healing factor wasn't kicking in.
And that's what he means by "the world's a different place... there's no more mutants..."
My guess is that Xavier is just in his head, and doesn't actually exist anymore.
Remember he was born in 1880. So with his healing factor weakening makes sense he would look super old in 2024. By all accounts he should have died of old age many times over if it wasn't for his healing factor
Yeah, and that fits with Old Man Logan.
Even though we see him in the truck with Logan and X23, when it's spinning out of control? (Still could be in his head, sure... but to me, it seemed like he was there... because I have a feeling, at the end, when he's holding the shovel, that's him burying Professor Xavier... and I have a feeling whatever happened to Prof X, probably half way through the movie, will be the turning point for Wolverine, where he is forced to go after the Reavers, Donald Pierce, and whomever else...)Quote:
Phil: My guess is that Xavier is just in his head, and doesn't actually exist anymore.
The trailer doesn't have to be linear though.
The burial scene could be a flashback.
I thought this one looked pretty bleak and depressing to be honest.
Being based on a Millar comic only made it look worse. :/
... and that's two trailers in a row which I disagree with everybody on.
~ Le Messor
"I want nothing to do with natural foods. At my age I need all the preservatives I can get."
~ George Burns
I think that's sort of the point. It's a depressing world for mutants... an end... if you will.Quote:
I thought this one looked pretty bleak and depressing to be honest.
My buddy and I recorded a podcast about it - And we think it's essentially FOX's attempt to put a close to that timeline (so there's no more mutants), since they will be focusing on the Age of Apocalypse team of X-MEN.
Supposedly, anyway.
[quote=Tawmis]I think that's sort of the point.[quote]Quote:
I thought this one looked pretty bleak and depressing to be honest.
Yeah, but it's bleak and depressing.
I was going to requote you and say "I think that's sort of the point" so there'd be this whole circular thing...
But with the quote function being broken currently, it was too much work. :)
:)
My point is, if I find something looks bleak and depressing, telling me that's the point of it does absolutely nothing to make me like it more.
~ Le Messor
"Circular logic: See 'Logic, circular'."
"Logic, circular: See 'Circular logic'."
~ B.C.
Oh! I wouldn't try to convince you to like Wolverine (or the X-Men) movies more... because... Well, I will probably be disappointed myself. :D
I just thought the trailer (which was trying to capture that depressing feel, I feel) - did a good job of doing that (with the song, and how Hugh Jackman sounds during the voice over).
I've enjoyed most of the X-Men movies so far, so my mind isn't closed to this one, but I don't like bleak and depressing in movies. I guess I feel like, if I wanted to get bleak and depressed, I'd...
... I'd never want to feel bleak and depressed.
So, if the movie has that effect (deliberately) - well done; but I don't want to know. :)
~ Le Messor
"I need not suffer in silence while I can still moan, whimper and complain. "
~ Daily Affirmation
I can understand that Le Messor. It's partially why I'm frustrated with the Cap Steve Rogers storyline,im read cap stories to see him stand up for what's right, and so seeing him work for hydra ruins the escapism. But I don't mind that frame in my movies, I actually loved the trailer myself, the song put it over the top in a good way. Now as for my opinion on the xmen movies:
xmen 1: decent
x-men 2: good
x3- awful
xmen origins wolverine : mindnumbingly dumb
xmen first class pretty good
the wolverine good
xmen days of future past: amazing
apocalypse- haven't seen it yet
For me it's:
X1: very good
X2: amazing
X3: okay at best, disappointing following the other two
Origins: let us never speak of it again
The Wolverine: Good! What a twist!
First Class: My favourite
DofP: good, but let down by being depressing
Apocalypse: good, could've been better.
With the last three, I really needed them to establish a status quo. Choose an X-team and stick to it. Without that, I can't get attached to their characters.
X1: Boring
X2: Great
X3: Terrible
XMO:W: Amusingly bad, so good.
The Wolverine: Awful
FC: Mostly Great
DOFP: Bad
Not seen Apocalypse. Possibly thankfully.
By the time of Apocalypse, interest had started to dip.
When I went to see it in the theatre, I didn't even try to get anybody else to go along; I just went.
It was a movie I enjoyed, but I could probably find more things to complain about than to say 'this was great about it'. It, like all the others, is now part of my bluray collection (Wolverine: Origins was part of a box set I got as a gift, otherwise I wouldn't have it).
For those who haven't seen Apocalypse: if your interest is that low, don't waste your time watching it.
X1: good
X2: Hated it, honestly
X3: Really hayed it
Origins: Terrible
The Wolverine: Mediocre to me, at best
First Class: Good, not great
DofP: Bad
Apocalypse: haven't seen it
Well, we have a consensus about Apocalypse: Most of the forum has that 'never seen it' feeling about it. :)
I've just come back from the comic store where, to bring back to the thread topic, a guy asked - they'd sold out of Old Man Logan trades.
~ Le Messor
"I wish there was some way to turn down the stupidity on tv. There's a knob called 'brightness,' but that doesn't work."
~ Unknown
To be honest, I have not enjoyed the recent comic book renditions of the X-Men or Wolverine. As much as Old Man Logan was a very entertaining look into the future and a great story arc, I am not interested in seeing that character every month in the mainstream. The original Logan was much more interesting because there was so much from his history they could pull from.
As for the movies:
X1: Very enjoyable
X2: My favourite of all of them
X3: Could have been better but it just didn't deliver
Origins: This was a giant middle finger to the fanbase
The Wolverine: Loved seeing the Japan Saga brought to screen, but they totally blew it on the Silver Samurai character
First Class: Michael Fassbender was excellent in this... the rest pretty much sucked
DOFP: Very good, the Quicksilver kitchen scene is timeless (no pun intended)
Apocalypse: So much potential to revitalize the franchise, but fell flat
Well, since we're doing this...
X1: At the time, I was impressed. Disliked the "leather" look, but it was what it was.
X2: It was good. Nothing to write home about.
X3: Hated it.
Origins: Best Sabretooth so far. Best Deadpool. Right up to the end. WTF were they thinking?
The Wolverine: Mediocre at best. The potential to unleash the savage Wolverine fell flat - like when the ninjas all speared him and Wolverine fell flat in the snow.
First Class: So. Much. Hatred.
DoFP: Good, for what it was. Almost a really good movie. Best direction up to this point.
Apocalypse: Really good, except for all the things I hated and nitpicked.
The problem is - FOX is now trying to tie these universes together, but they've changed the cast of main characters so many times by different actors, that it's nothing but a cluster fubar.